A quick question for aldiboronti
I was just wondering where you found the varient "clumbsie". Thank you so much for your help!
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The abbreviation OED1 in my post stands for the Oxford English Dictionary, 1st edition, wherein, under the entry for CLUMSY, is given, along with several others, the variant spelling you were...
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He said in his note: Oxford English Dictionary 1st edition. But the actual citation is, "When each base clowne his clumbsie fist doth bruise." 1597 I can't decipher the abbreviated author.
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In some research on the place names of Sussex I found the relevant quote. Making head or tail of it is another story and I'll leave it to greater minds than mine!URL:...
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THANKS - you two have been very helpful in my little quest!
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Thanks, jim. The abbreviated author (Bp. Hall) is Bishop Hall, that's Joseph Hall. The quote comes from his Satires (Virgidemarium), published about 1597. The Satires are always attributed to 'Bishop'...
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The first sentence of Aldi's link to Joseph Hall says:Quote:Joseph Hall was born at Ashby-de-la-Zouch and educated at Emmanuel College, Cambridge, where he was part of the University wits. I think I...
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I agree, ozzie. Definitely a clumbsie construction.
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Lots of references to "rotten-row", is that a euphemism or a slang term for some place, state or condition? Seems definitely to be a UBlish thing.
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This is from a cigarette card site (amazing, the things you can learn from cigarette cards!)Rotten Row or The Row is a famous road in Hyde Park reserved for riding. Formerly known as Lamp Road or The...
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>amazing, the things you can learn from cigarette cards!)I haven't smoked for 26 years. When I stopped, there was nothing in my ken about "cigarette cards" -- wazzat?
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I've never heard of them either, and twenty-six yaers ago was when I started smoking.
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Cigarette cards (or fag cards, as they were also called in all innocence) were a big deal over here, but that was long ago. I once had my great-grandad's pre-WWII collection. Subjects ranged from...
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Other theories for the origin of Rotten Row:www.bartleby.com/81/14534.htmlThere are streets with this name in other towns in England as well.
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That's fascinating, especially as they seem so plausible. The same goes for Skibs' Sussex link, in which I noticed the standardised UK Coldharbour and its range of possible origins (the research...
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